#6 Lazytown rant

by **kugs** » 06 Mar 2010, 23:34

I play hours of LT every day. I normally ragequit after 10 minutes though. I need to get this anger out of me! Here is why I rage:

If you are firing at an unattended enemy sentry, and have low health and need one more shot to take it out, the medic right next to you will start shooting syringes at the enemy instead of healing you.
If your team is attacking point 4 or 5, your teleport will take you to point 1.
If your team has none of any class, the second you switch to it, 3 other people will. If you don't switch, no one else will.
You will only be team switched if you: go engy and build/update anything or play a part in the uber that takes out all the enemy buildings.
Everyone you uber will retreat instead of attack.
The chances of getting a heal go down the better your preform. Espically if you are a burning medic.
If you are losing point 1, your team will focus all their attention of defending attacks from the garage, rather than retaking point 2.
No enemies will attempt to take control of the roof if you are on it, or are a class that can get on it. If you are not, there will be 2 enemy soldiers and a demo, and none of your relevant team classes will try to get up there.
There will always be a pyro to push back your uber. Even if your last uber killed them. Fecking Whizz.
Any push you make with an uber will be followed by none of your team.
This.

PS: LT has lots of great players, and if you are playing with them, most of the above won't happen.
PPS: WhizzUK is always the best team mate. Winning or losing, his ranting provides the best entertainment.

by **GTFO. SiR-ROUND** » 06 Mar 2010, 23:39

Never had those issues, sorry.

by **commander wingnut** » 07 Mar 2010, 00:32

thats cos your in the spawn point most the time lol
:lol:

by **kugs** » 07 Mar 2010, 00:36

Nah, I've seen him out sniping a few times. That engineer won't shotgun me no more!

by **commander wingnut** » 07 Mar 2010, 00:41

lol mate he knows im right lol
:lol:

by **the greatest** » 07 Mar 2010, 02:08

kugs wrote:I play hours of LT every day. I normally ragequit after 10 minutes though. I need to get this anger out of me! Here is why I rage:

Is it me or does this make no sense what so ever, how can you play hours but ragequit after 10 minutes?

You need to remember it's just a game mate

commander wingnut wrote:thats cos your in the spawn point most the time lol

you would know mate as you were stood next to him the other night :mrgreen:

by **kugs** » 07 Mar 2010, 02:43

Is it me or does this make no sense what so ever, how can you play hours but ragequit after 10 minutes?

Play for 5 minutes. Ragequit 5 minutes later. 10 minute break to cool off. Rinse and repeat until I rage less and play fer few hours.

You need to remember it's just a game mate

Fer sure - that's why I keep trying til I find a game I wanna play

by **WhizzUK** » 07 Mar 2010, 10:35

kugs wrote:I play hours of LT every day. I normally ragequit after 10 minutes though. I need to get this anger out of me! Here is why I rage:

If you are firing at an unattended enemy sentry, and have low health and need one more shot to take it out, the medic right next to you will start shooting syringes at the enemy instead of healing you.
If your team is attacking point 4 or 5, your teleport will take you to point 1.
If your team has none of any class, the second you switch to it, 3 other people will. If you don't switch, no one else will.
You will only be team switched if you: go engy and build/update anything or play a part in the uber that takes out all the enemy buildings.
Everyone you uber will retreat instead of attack.
The chances of getting a heal go down the better your preform. Espically if you are a burning medic.
If you are losing point 1, your team will focus all their attention of defending attacks from the garage, rather than retaking point 2.
No enemies will attempt to take control of the roof if you are on it, or are a class that can get on it. If you are not, there will be 2 enemy soldiers and a demo, and none of your relevant team classes will try to get up there.
There will always be a pyro to push back your uber. Even if your last uber killed them. Fecking Whizz.
Any push you make with an uber will be followed by none of your team.

PS: LT has lots of great players, and if you are playing with them, most of the above won't happen.
PPS: WhizzUK is always the best team mate. Winning or losing, his ranting provides the best entertainment.

General rule of thumb for me follows the same route as most but with added zing I generally join the server in a bad mood start ranting at the noobs that do what kugs posted see above. My pet hate at moment is medics with crits, when were not even capturing second point ( Ithink some not all are awaiting the arrival of cockanek oh sorry typo Paranek to save us). After the umpteenth rant the team suddenly seems to click and we get a little organisation going and start moving up on the cap points, I don't know about other admins but I do get royally pissed of when we are really struggling to get out of our home cap, and I die frequently, not that I mind, but when I spawn for like the 3rd or 4th time I still see the same bitches just mincing around in our spawn it does get my back up and I do kick them, always with fair warning...... a few do say piss brb ect even myself smoke break piss break, Mrs needs a thump break, but if all that fails then i just resort to old faithful rage quit and come back later and start all over again

PS 1 tip that you wannabe pyro's should realy take note of NEVER EVER EVER use the back burner on LT
I love the smell of burning soldiers

by **GTFO. ObscuredByCows** » 07 Mar 2010, 11:17

GTFO. WhizzUK wrote:PS 1 tip that you wannabe pyro's should realy take note of NEVER EVER EVER use the back burner on LT

Or any other map for that matter, compression blast and being able to extinguish team mates far outweighs the crit buff of the back burner.

by **GTFO. gungadin** » 07 Mar 2010, 12:24

kugs wrote:
If your team has none of any class, the second you switch to it, 3 other people will. If you don't switch, no one else will.

Lol, so true.

kugs wrote:PPS: WhizzUK is always the best team mate. Winning or losing, his ranting provides the best entertainment.

DataStorms ranting is always more vociferous. Having Whizz and DS on the same team is like listening to a gabble of geese :mrgreen:

by **GTFO. SiR-ROUND** » 07 Mar 2010, 13:26

I learned camping from the best Wingnut...

Just compare ur K/D to mine, and see I take more then one for the team...

:mrgreen:

by **GTFO. Clymout** » 07 Mar 2010, 15:23

Medics should use the uber not kritzkrieg if attacking cp's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One kritz medic can help tho.

We have been all over this before...ages ago!

My TF2 Backpack · by **Aperture Science Employee 23** » 07 Mar 2010, 18:15

You just need players that you play with often for teamwork. Simple as that, I mean if I was playing, I'd instantly know "Time to butthug Whizz!" and support him/her. It's not gonna happen often with random people. plus I like kritz, nice to see things explode.

by **GTFO. vito** » 07 Mar 2010, 18:34

Aperture Science Employee 23 wrote:You just need players that you play with often for teamwork.

+1....you definitely get to understand their style.

That said, some fair comments from Kugs as some of them rile me as well. My absolute worst hate is (what i call) the "team whore". Someone who :
Scenario A: joins LT, goes spec to avoid the auto team assign, checks which side is winning and waits for a slot to join the winning team when there is a slot on the losing side spare they could join immediately
Scenario B: is on LT already on the winning side, gets auto-swapped by the balancer, rages about being balanced, goes spec and then waits for a slot to join when there is a slot on the losing side spare (since he/she just vacated it to go spec)

Of course this applies to any server but it especially riles me on LT where you are being held back by people playing as described by kugs and Whizz.

</rantalert.com> People up to the tricks described in either scenario above (especially on the LT server), rest assured, you are on thin ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. (my now being re-used again catchphrase - as stolen from GTFO. Bricktop)

by **kancho** » 08 Mar 2010, 22:08

You know what I hate in this map?? Kritz soldier, especially the one everyone knows of... :mrgreen:

by **GTFO. SiR-ROUND** » 08 Mar 2010, 22:48

Feckin Paranek?

:mrgreen:

by **GTFO. kk20** » 11 Mar 2010, 21:54

backburner used to be great when you had +50 health but nowadays its pretty useless IMHO.

LT is a mixed bag for me. Most of the time it decends into demo spam at points 4/2

by **Kharnac** » 12 Mar 2010, 11:31

my immidiate thinking when reading most of this is simply 'welcome to pubs'.

by **GTFO. Clymout** » 12 Mar 2010, 21:14

GTFO. SiR-ROUND wrote:Feckin Paranek?

He is a great soldier imho, but a lousy team player. I moved him twice today as he left to join the winning team.

That said I don't know anyone else who can take two crits and survive. Medics are like flies around shit when he is on.

But a very good player when all is said and done.

by **GTFO. SiR-ROUND** » 12 Mar 2010, 23:38

A bit more fun would be nice...

by **kancho** » 12 Mar 2010, 23:41

GTFO. Clymout wrote:
GTFO. SiR-ROUND wrote:Feckin Paranek?

He is a great soldier imho, but a lousy team player. I moved him twice today as he left to join the winning team.

That said I don't know anyone else who can take two crits and survive. Medics are like flies around shit when he is on.

But a very good player when all is said and done.

I'm not really sure if he is a great player. All the medics suddenly go kritzkrieg once they see him in their team just so they can get loads of assists and dominations.

If he goes toe to toe without medic with a really good player, he is totally owned most of the time.

He is also a lousy loser. He quits the game once his team is defending its last point (this I've seen numerous times).

by **GTFO. SiR-ROUND** » 13 Mar 2010, 00:40

Hey Kancho!

Welcome.

:mrgreen:

by **dume.kc** » 13 Mar 2010, 01:00

First post, whoo-hoo!!
After a few days on LT I realized that most of the fun is to play for the team.

I like sniping, opening a third eye is thrilling... hard job as spies and pyros love to own us

Sometimes snipers lose control and go in sniper.vs.sniper confrontations (I hate a few ones here -

)

But building a teleport and giving the right support both in defense and attack is really great.

I like this map, but I hate when it's stuffed with noobs and other low points players as they drain yours, that after a while you earn one by one. Either way it's funny to see good people play, as everyone knows where to go and when.

About paranek, I noticed he has a lot of medics around, and I avoid him (as a sniper I always get blown away - litteraly).
But the shit-flies tie is still a good picture of him, no offence intended.

As I started to play quite recently, in november, I grew up in gtfo's servers. All you see in my stats is actually my life on TF2. I got killed so many times, in so many stupid ways... kamikaze style is not worth it, and worse with some players around.

by **Macfragger** » 13 Mar 2010, 01:22

What pisses me off the most atm is all the bloody crits. I'm not talking about random crits, its all these boosted bloody crits valve keeps adding like the buff banner, jarate ect. total shite, its taking the fun/skill out of the game. its no fun constantly being killed by crits and no skill needed spamming 400dmg crockets thru a tunnel.

Autobalance, crist, every time you join LT you are put on the loosing team, then you help the team push onto point 3 only to be autobalanced back on to the loosing team, I spend all my time on point 1 or 2 :twisted:

also I seem to kinda lag/jump/skip around the concrete tubes on point 3, WTF any 1 else get this?
plus my interweb connection is total shite, so I've not been playing as much recently

But I keep coming back for more :wink:

GTFO. Clymout wrote:That said I don't know anyone else who can take two crits and survive.

I can't kill him either

edited to add also & plus

by **WhizzUK** » 13 Mar 2010, 02:57

I actualy went as a soldier for about 30 minutes and guess what i got more crits in that 30 mins than i did as a pyro or demo how the hell does that work

by **GTFO. Clymout** » 13 Mar 2010, 10:38

kancho wrote:
GTFO. Clymout wrote:
GTFO. SiR-ROUND wrote:Feckin Paranek?

If he goes toe to toe without medic with a really good player, he is totally owned most of the time.

He is also a lousy loser. He quits the game once his team is defending its last point (this I've seen numerous times).

Well, I did manage to dominate him, once, but I still think one on one he is a good player. His moves are good. Watch him in the garage attacking, he blasts for spies.

by **Dev** » 13 Mar 2010, 11:11

GTFO. Clymout wrote:Watch him in the garage attacking, he blasts for spies.

Bloody annoying thing i see is defending the last cap and you have the most useless snipers on the team

by **dume.kc** » 13 Mar 2010, 13:44

Dev wrote:
GTFO. Clymout wrote:Watch him in the garage attacking, he blasts for spies.

Bloody annoying thing i see is defending the last cap and you have the most useless snipers on the team

I know what you mean... lol
When they come from the garage and the capture point you have to watch your back from spies, other snipers ready to drill a hole between your eyes and getting all "miss 'em all" at the same time.

Sometimes it's hard...

by **dume.kc** » 14 Mar 2010, 03:01

Tonight I got killed quite a few times because of lag.
Got dominated by a player only for that reason, as I dominatede him back with hits all in a row...

Rant added.

Hell, I hate those soldiers with crits. Really really hate 'em. Boom.

by **kancho** » 14 Mar 2010, 14:28

GTFO. SiR-ROUND wrote:Hey Kancho!

Welcome.

Thanks

Dev wrote:
GTFO. Clymout wrote:Watch him in the garage attacking, he blasts for spies.

Bloody annoying thing i see is defending the last cap and you have the most useless snipers on the team

This is also annoying me. At the defending side, the whole 3 slots of snipers suddenly get filled up at the last cap. It ends up becoming a duel between sniper teams.

by **kancho** » 14 Mar 2010, 15:14

Macfragger wrote:What pisses me off the most atm is all the bloody crits. I'm not talking about random crits, its all these boosted bloody crits valve keeps adding like the buff banner, jarate ect. total shite, its taking the fun/skill out of the game. its no fun constantly being killed by crits and no skill needed spamming 400dmg crockets thru a tunnel.

Although I do enjoy using critz, buff banner and jarate, I somewhat agree that the LT might not be suitable for the buffs/critz since the map has a lot of choke points and one well placed critz (by skill or blind luck) can turn the tide of the game.

You can also see from the player ranking list that a sizeable portion of the top 100 players are actually playing LT map.

Any thoughts on turning it into a fast respawn vanilla skill map?

by **Kharnac** » 14 Mar 2010, 16:15

surely thats why buffbanners/kritzs are suitable for LT though? given that the object of the game is to win.

by **kugs** » 14 Mar 2010, 18:40

Kharnac wrote:surely thats why buffbanners/kritzs are suitable for LT though? given that the object of the game is to win.

Agreed. The matches still go on for hours, and still fun. Nothing to rage quit from if you don't enjoying going there

by **Slack** » 16 Mar 2010, 16:58

gungadin wrote:
DataStorms ranting is always more vociferous. Having Whizz and DS on the same team is like listening to a gabble of geese

Have you forgotten the colossus of rage that was GTFO.al? I miss that man. He is the only person ever to have made me piss myself with sudden laughter on any game server.

I hear him in my sleep, vehemently deriding the world. His voice to me is disembodied and ageless now, echoing through dream and time like some outraged Irish Yog Sothoth. If there is anything wrong with Lazytown, it is that he is no longer there.

by **GTFO. SiR-ROUND** » 16 Mar 2010, 18:00

Yeah, what is Al up to these days?

by **kugs** » 31 Mar 2010, 12:42

Some more:

If we are on last point, our engineers will build in or near spawn
If we are on our last point and have 3 or 4 snipers, I will still get sniped every time I leave spawn.
If you have an uber, the people around you will be heavies, snipers and engies.
If you have an uber, everyone you target will hold back until you uber, wasting a precious 2 seconds!
The more engineers you have, the less chance you have of one upgrading your teleport (which is the only active one)
If you are a burning medic, every pyro you run by won't extinguish you, but will call medic (usually when at full health)
Every soldier calling medic will have the equilizer out.

Been playing support classes a lot more. As before, doesn't apply to everyone

Youtube · by **DataStorm** » 31 Mar 2010, 16:27

you forget one:
- as burning medic any friendly pyro you meet, has the backburner.... (as if it is USEFULL on LT)

by **GTFO. kk20** » 31 Mar 2010, 22:01

backburner isnt as useful as the normal flamethrower.

by **EvilGrizz** » 31 Mar 2010, 23:02

Also, 99.99% of the time, when you uber, no-one will follow and it will all go to waste.

by **GTFO. Clymout** » 01 Apr 2010, 09:08

Snipers think that they are safe defending their 2nd to last cap, sniping on back ledge. Until lengthened stickies are launched over to them, even better when a crit is released! Love doing that!