Check it out! Scout update for the 24th

by **GTFO. larolaro** » 17 Feb 2009, 22:40

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate

There you go!

Its going to be awesome...

Mr. Sandman, bring me a dream, Make him the cutest that I've ever seen...

by **diz** » 17 Feb 2009, 22:44

HELL YEAH

by **GTFO. larolaro** » 17 Feb 2009, 22:47

I cant wait! its been 6 months since the last class update...i feel like a child again :lol:

by **GTFO. Luckyg** » 17 Feb 2009, 23:15

6 new post all together? what do you think? 3 new weapons, 2 new maps and one new gameplay style?

I'M SO HAPPY, G get the test server back up so we can get all these achievements

by **DooMeR** » 18 Feb 2009, 01:09

You Scouts are gonna love this highly collectible bat that smacks baseballs at the other team, stunning the living crap outta anybody dumb, slow, drunk, mute or Australian enough to get in the way. The farther the ball flies before ricocheting offa some chucklehead's skull, the longer he's gonna be stunned. And guys who think they're tough because they're invulnerable? It works on them too. Now the bad news: You can't double jump when you're carrying this little beauty. On the other hand, double jumping never put anybody in a coma

A. Hit a guy with the ball to stun him. The farther the ball travels, the longer heâ€™s gonna be out.

B. Now laugh at the guy because he ainâ€™t doinâ€™ nothin for a while but gettinâ€™ beat on.

C. Get in there and take some cheap shots! You deserve it. So does he. Batter SWING!B. Now laugh at the guy because he ainâ€™t doinâ€™ nothin for a while but gettinâ€™ beat on.

As a meidc i think the sandman sounds shit. Its hard enough getting people to play medics as it is, but now the sandman can stun any body even if they are unberd.

A pyro can render a uber usless with his compression blast , now so can a scout. I just have visions of scout noobs sat in their base spaming the baseballs at chock points, or random areas hoping to get hits.

My only hope is the balls are easy to aviod and hard to aim.

Its gonna be even harder for heavies now, not only does there slow speed make them easy targets for snipers, spys and demoman now scouts.

by **r3loaded** » 18 Feb 2009, 02:46

I hope one of the mystery links is a Meet the Spy/Medic video!

by **GTFO. vito** » 18 Feb 2009, 03:15

scout and a spy could wreak havoc on engineer campers

by **GTFO. Coxy** » 18 Feb 2009, 10:25

Looks shit imo, really think this will mess up the balance of the game :/ And I like going scout!

by **DooMeR** » 18 Feb 2009, 11:04

I agree coxy, scout is a fun class to play but this could totally spoil the game. How many people are going to bother charging ubers now when a scout can just come along and break it.

The whole point of a uber charge is to make you invulnerable to damage, you can take epics amount of damage yet a scout can come along with a baseball and break the uber, it makes no sense maybe its some sort of magic baseball.

I thought the whole points of scouts was there speed and been able to capture points and intel qwickly. A qwick example is on dustbowl on the last stage on the bridge, i can see scouts just sitting there spamming the baseball bat shit

I think valve have run out of ideas of how to add extra content to the classes, thats why its taken so long. I think they are more interested in left for dead these days

by **Joesoef** » 18 Feb 2009, 11:07

You'll probably have to unlock this one as well then?
I really need to play more.. I've got none of those fancy tools

by **Father Dougal** » 18 Feb 2009, 11:47

this new bat looks over powered and it changes the role of a scout

also it works on ubercharged people. That means when you are uberchraged there will be four scouts all stunning you and you won't be able to go anywhere. :evil:

It will turn scouts into a spamming class, and will be really annoying when a n00b is just constantly firing into an area and you get stunned and then get sniped.

Think a class limit is needed, i would say that a maximum of 2 per team

by **GTFO. Clymout** » 18 Feb 2009, 17:10

I'm just interested to see how hard it is to get a hardball hit, I can't imagine it will be easy.

by **GTFO. vito** » 18 Feb 2009, 17:49

I agree. Although it looks like a killer pice of kit (being able to stun ubered players) I wouldn't expect it will be a piece of piss to pull it off.

That said, muppets spamming from spawns/windows/behind gates etc will ned close attention but that is the case at present.

by **GTFO. Gash** » 18 Feb 2009, 18:29

they do lose double jump... so closing in on you will be ok... main worry as stated, is going to be rushing in with uber... bonk on heed, and ur stuck there with about 9 pyro's now blastin u away...

well most thought some of the pyro/medic/heavy changes would ruin the game, so ill wait till we see it in action

by **GTFO. Fractus** » 18 Feb 2009, 18:58

I was expecting some sort of shield or self uber for the scout, nothing as weird as this...

by **GTFO. kk20** » 18 Feb 2009, 22:44

I hope you can backblast the balls. Ooooh my, that will be fun.

by **GTFO. Luckyg** » 18 Feb 2009, 23:00

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate ... nction.htm

thats shitty, both of them maps are crap

DOWN WITH COMMUNITY MAPS FOR OFFICIAL DLC!!!

by **GTFO. Coxy** » 18 Feb 2009, 23:32

Yeah, when are they going to make some proper official maps! I wan't a new Payload map!

by **GTFO. Sinister** » 18 Feb 2009, 23:53

Why would they bother making them themselves when there are plenty of people out there who'll do them for free?? Makes financial sense to me...

by **GTFO. Coxy** » 18 Feb 2009, 23:57

I suppose so! Just really hope this scout update doesn't fuck up gameplay. Wonder if the nailgun will make an appearance?

by **GTFO. Fractus** » 19 Feb 2009, 00:29

Would be better if instead of a ball he batted a claymore at people or something, maybe one o the old style grenades

by **GTFO. fission_chips** » 19 Feb 2009, 11:44

does anyone even play arena?? what is the point of that? I agree with Coxy, another payload map would have been great. Seems pretty obvious to me that Goldrush and Badwater seem to be very popular meanwhile CP_Steel has fallen off the radar

by **Sepp** » 19 Feb 2009, 14:23

Patience guys...those are only the community maps...official(s) still to come.
ThereÂ´s definitely a new payload map in the making...dunno if itÂ´ll be included in the scout update or will come later.

by **stethor** » 19 Feb 2009, 22:48

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/energydrink.htm, looks good, just look in the back ground.... Double payload

by **GTFO. Luckyg** » 19 Feb 2009, 23:39

nice find on that 2 cart payload map, that could be interesting :twisted:

EDIT:

the "Triple Play" achievements icon and name might be showing a new game mode

, multiple flags anyone?

by **r3loaded** » 20 Feb 2009, 00:09

Lol, the last time they put up the Heavy icon set, the filenames gave away what each achievement did. Looks like Valve wised up this time around to keep people guessing..

On another note, I'd love the ability to run up to a heavy who's eating a sandvich and stealing it off him

by **GTFO. Gash** » 20 Feb 2009, 08:51

dunno, it dont rly look like double payload... just looks like two routes...

by **Sepp** » 20 Feb 2009, 09:22

One cart is red...the other is blu...so most likely both teams have to push...

by **GTFO. G** » 20 Feb 2009, 09:25

Looks like double payload to me, although the 'carts' dont look like the usual carts.

by **GTFO. Luckyg** » 20 Feb 2009, 09:43

looking at those images i would suggest one of em is going to be the next weapon, i.e. like gears of war 2 with the clainsaw and gun attached together

, just an idea

by **Sepp** » 20 Feb 2009, 09:50

The energy drink might really make the scout more useful on e.g. dustbowl as it seems to be his bypass around sentries...looking forward to it.

by **clx** » 20 Feb 2009, 09:56

Bit bored at work this morning, so here is what i think all the achievements could be... feel free to correct any

I'm Bat Man: kill x people using only the bat in 1 life

Moon Shot: Stun some one with the baseball from a long way off

No Hitter: Capture the intel with out hitting/being hit ?

Out of the Park: send some ones rag doll flying x far ?

Pop Fly: something to do with double jumps...

Quick Hook: no idea

Race for the Pennant: be the first scout on the point in a CP map ?

Retire the Runner: take out another scout who has used the Boink drink?

Round Tripper: cap the intel 3 times to win in 1 map, possibly without dropping it

Set the Table: not sure

Side Retired: cap all points?

Stealing Home: finish a CP map in x minuets

Strike Zone: stun x many people

The Big Hurt: stun x many medics who are healing/ubering?

The Cycle: something about dieing alot

Triple Play: cap all 3 points with out losing any

Triple Steal: steal the intel 3 times?

A Year to Remember: no idea

Artful Dodger: dodge all shots from a player before killing them?

Batter Up: use only a bat for a whole round?

Batting the Doctor: kill x many medics with the bat only

Beanball: hit x many baseballs ?

Belittled Beleauger: kill x many people carrying your intel?

Block the Plate: stop x many captures

Brushback: stun x many people pushing the cart

Caught Napping: kill x many scouts who are recovering from the Bonk drink

Closer: destroy x many teleport enterances

Doctoring the Ball: get an uber from a medic then knock some one out?

Dodgers 1, Giants 0: kill a heavy whos eating

Fall Classic: dont know

First Blood: make the first kill on a map

First Blood, Part 2: make the first kill on a map with your bat

Foul Territory: knock some one off the edge of a map ? (lumber yard arena ?)

Gun Down: x many kills with your pistol

If You Build It: destroy x many SG while they are being built?

by **stethor** » 20 Feb 2009, 13:49

After finding a russian site that said they had found the actual descriptions (translated in Babelfish

) i'd thought i'd better post them here, They seem resonable enough

First Blood - make the first kill on the arena
First Blood pt.2 - kill 5 enemies using "First blood" bonus. :?:

Quick Hook - kill an enemy on the Well before the round starts
A Year to Remember - kill 2004 enemies
The Cycle - kill enemy while in air, on the ground and underwater, all during one life
Closer - destroy 25 teleporters
If You Build It - destroy 25 buildings while they are being constructed
Gun Down - destroy 5 sentries using pistol only
Doctoring the Ball - Kill 3 enemies while ubered
Dodgers 1, Giants 0 - Kill heavy and get his sandwich
Stealing Home - Start capping the point as soon as it becomes possible
The Big Hurt - Stun 25 ubered enemies
Batting the Doctor - Kill 10 fully charged medics
Beanball - Stun scout with his own ball
Artful Dodger - Get 1000 "missed" damage during 1 life
Strike Zone - Kill 50 stunned enemies
Out of the Park - Bat the enemy so he flies 25 meters
Triple Play - Cap 3 points in 1 round without dying
Triple Steal - Steal intel 3 times during 1 round
Round Tripper - Steal intel 250 times
Belittled Beleauger - Kill the enemy carrying your intel while you are carrying theirs
Fall Classic - Make 1000 double jumps
I'm Bat Man - Endure 500 damage in 1 life
Batter Up - Kill 100 enemies while double-jumping
Foul Territory - Cause enemy's death by stunning him
Pop Fly - Die because of double-barreled shotgun's recoil :?:

Brushback - Stun 50 capping/pushing enemies
Moon Shot - Stun 25 enemies for a maximum time
Retire Runner - Kill 10 slowed down Scouts
Caught Napping - Kill 50 enemies by shooting them in the back with doublebarreled shotgun
Side Retired - Capture the last point
Set the Table - Start 50 succesful point captures
Block the Plate - Defend the point 100 times
No Hitter - Steal and cap intel without shooting
Race for the Pennant - Run 25 kilometers

This list is from the steam forums but i have actually tranlated it aswell and it does mean this, ALTHOUGH it is probobly fake but most seem possible

by **GTFO. Luckyg** » 20 Feb 2009, 15:00

i'd say its fake baring in mind there is no achievements in there for the new bonk energy drink or for the yet to be announced scatter gun

by **clx** » 20 Feb 2009, 15:26

Most of them look pretty good.

Laro showed me a pic from the steam forums last night that showed the current scatter gun next to the gun on the boink drink page.
The differences i spotted were that the barrels were shorter, but wider in diameter and no circular cartage holder. That coupled with the "Pop Fly - Die because of double-barreled shotgun's recoil " achievements certainly matches the picture.
It could well be a double barrelled shotgun. upsides being stronger shots? maybe a larger spread than the scatter gun? downsides being only 2 shots before reloading and possible damage when using it?

Hit and run anyone?
Drink up, run in, 2 powerful shots, run out, recover from the drink side effects and reload.

by **-NanoCorp- CyberPower** » 20 Feb 2009, 17:44

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/energydrink.htm

If you look at the scattergun it seems to be different, i'm not sure if it is the same gun or not as i dont really play scout. But to my eyes it looks slightly different

by **r3loaded** » 20 Feb 2009, 18:24

That page also seems to give away the new game mode - can you see the two bomb carts in the background? Double payload map perhaps?

by **Father Dougal** » 20 Feb 2009, 18:34

that would be good, a payload race, where both teams have to push their own cart while trying to stop the other team from pushing theirs.

Background suggests that their will be a double payload map, will have to wait and see

by **stethor** » 20 Feb 2009, 22:25

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/energydrink.htm the achievement info is out and it looks like the russian webpage was right about most things, main points are that the new gun is called the Force-A-Nature and that it has a knockback effect

*Edit* The next part of the update has been released, new Community map CP_egypt and update to CP_fastlane, bit of a 'meh' update http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/egypt.htm

My Backpack · by **.Endless** » 20 Feb 2009, 23:27

those achievements are hard ...