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Postby zoyneela » 10 Jan 2012, 07:51

What is the difference between HDMI cables? I want to plug my PC into a 37" LCD TV, I've noticed some HDMI cables are about £15 and some are £90? Will there be notable difference?
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby GTFO. TommyBoy » 10 Jan 2012, 11:13

zoyneela wrote:What is the difference between HDMI cables? I want to plug my PC into a 37" LCD TV, I've noticed some HDMI cables are about £15 and some are £90? Will there be notable difference?

No you wont see any difference, I've used both a monster cable costing over 50 quid and a B&Q cable which cost 1.50 with my media box and PS3, cant see any difference whatsoever.
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby r3loaded » 10 Jan 2012, 15:02

If you use a 3DTV or have some other special need, you'll want to ensure you have an HDMI 1.4 cable. There are also cables which support ethernet over HDMI 1.4 if you have a device which supports that. Otherwise, they're all practically the same, the main difference being the quality of the external materials and their resistance to wear and tear. I have a no-brand 5m HDMI cable from Scan that cost me less than £5, has swivel connectors and is well-made in general.
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby GTFO. TommyBoy » 10 Jan 2012, 15:08

r3loaded wrote:If you use a 3DTV or have some other special need, you'll want to ensure you have an HDMI 1.4 cable. There are also cables which support ethernet over HDMI 1.4 if you have a device which supports that. Otherwise, they're all practically the same, the main difference being the quality of the external materials and their resistance to wear and tear. I have a no-brand 5m HDMI cable from Scan that cost me less than £5, has swivel connectors and is well-made in general.

Any HDMI cable will support ALL standards, apart from ethernet ove HDMI. A standard cable will support 1.4 highspeed even if its 5 years old.
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby r3loaded » 10 Jan 2012, 18:34

GTFO. TommyBoy wrote:Any HDMI cable will support ALL standards, apart from ethernet ove HDMI. A standard cable will support 1.4 highspeed even if its 5 years old.

In most cases, yes. However, there are two main categories for the two different clock speeds that HDMI signalling can use. The higher category ensures a minimum grade of wire and other materials are used to prevent signal issues. In practice, the lower category cables are well-built enough to work, though they're not *guaranteed* to work.
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby GTFO. Luckyg » 10 Jan 2012, 19:30

if you want a good HDMI cable check this one out, its only £1.20ish

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wired--up-v1-3A ... 183&sr=8-1

I use 2 on my xbox and ps3 and both work brilliantly and have lasted much longer than the other shittier £10 one i got from tesco.
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby -NanoCorp- CyberPower » 10 Jan 2012, 19:35

Because HDMI uses a digital signal, the purity/conductivity of the materials really does not matter, to an extent. For example, having gold plated connectors will make little to no difference

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Re: HDMI cables

Postby GTFO. TommyBoy » 10 Jan 2012, 20:20

r3loaded wrote:
GTFO. TommyBoy wrote:Any HDMI cable will support ALL standards, apart from ethernet ove HDMI. A standard cable will support 1.4 highspeed even if its 5 years old.

In most cases, yes. However, there are two main categories for the two different clock speeds that HDMI signalling can use. The higher category ensures a minimum grade of wire and other materials are used to prevent signal issues. In practice, the lower category cables are well-built enough to work, though they're not *guaranteed* to work.


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-NanoCorp- CyberPower wrote:Because HDMI uses a digital signal, the purity/conductivity of the materials really does not matter, to an extent. For example, having gold plated connectors will make little to no difference

Summary: just buy some cheap shit

The companies that actually use use the HDMI logos on their cables pay for the privilege, which is passed on to the end user, hence expensive cables have fancy logos, it's all marketing bollox. If a cable carries the digital signal, it simply will work and give the exact same quality picture as any other cable, no matter how expensive, no signal, no picture. It's not like analogue where a poor signal = crap picture.
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby r3loaded » 10 Jan 2012, 21:34

GTFO. TommyBoy wrote:If a cable carries the digital signal, it simply will work

Yes, as long as the cable actually carries the signal. If there's too much interference or other problems with the cable, the SNR will drop to the point where error-correction can't obtain the original information, and you'll get a blank screen. The HDMI specs ensure that the cable meets the minimum to carry enough of the information so it can be reconstructed. Obviously, anything beyond this is just marketing crap. The second category ensures a higher spec as SNR is likely to be lower at a higher clock speed (340Mhz), which is needed for 1080p60 and other high-bandwidth needs.

But in practice, the cables are usually decently made enough for both categories of HDMI signal, hence the "buy the cheapest one" advice. :)
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby GTFO. kk20 » 10 Jan 2012, 21:40

I use £3 asda ones. I also got a 15m one from ebay for a tenner. All work for me.
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby GTFO. TommyBoy » 10 Jan 2012, 23:16

r3loaded wrote:
GTFO. TommyBoy wrote:If a cable carries the digital signal, it simply will work

Yes, as long as the cable actually carries the signal. If there's too much interference or other problems with the cable, the SNR will drop to the point where error-correction can't obtain the original information, and you'll get a blank screen. The HDMI specs ensure that the cable meets the minimum to carry enough of the information so it can be reconstructed. Obviously, anything beyond this is just marketing crap. The second category ensures a higher spec as SNR is likely to be lower at a higher clock speed (340Mhz), which is needed for 1080p60 and other high-bandwidth needs.

But in practice, the cables are usually decently made enough for both categories of HDMI signal, hence the "buy the cheapest one" advice. :)

Yes, as I said without a bloody essay, if it works it works, sheesh
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby -NanoCorp- CyberPower » 11 Jan 2012, 00:45

Any shit will work, within reason.
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby GTFO. CrooZin » 11 Jan 2012, 09:14

-NanoCorp- CyberPower wrote:Any shit will work, within reason.

I'm just going to the toilet to make a HDMI cable :lol:
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby -NanoCorp- CyberPower » 11 Jan 2012, 18:37

GTFO. CrooZin wrote:
-NanoCorp- CyberPower wrote:Any shit will work, within reason.

I'm just going to the toilet to make a HDMI cable :lol:

Then you need to separate it into 24 separately insulated strands matey :wink:
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby GTFO. CrooZin » 11 Jan 2012, 23:02

I'll get the sieve :D
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Re: HDMI cables

Postby GTFO. TommyBoy » 11 Jan 2012, 23:03

GTFO. CrooZin wrote:I'll get the sieve :D

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Re: HDMI cables

Postby -NanoCorp- CyberPower » 12 Jan 2012, 08:34

GTFO. CrooZin wrote:I'll get the sieve :D

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